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Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: RoyofCA
... the final stage of the greatest PvP war ever ...
Is it? If PvP to you means Player-versus-POS, yea - it probably is. I can't remember an event where more POSes and modules have been destroyed and re-deployed in such a short time.
However, what is happening right now does not make anyone involved a great PVP pilot, corporation or alliance. It makes you very good demolition workers.
I have no problem with BoB being disbandened and destroyed. What doesn't compute are the tactics used by the overwhelming NC/Goons/PL force and calling it something great or epic. It's not PVP, its math. 100 pilots beat 10 pilots, 1000 pilots beat 100 pilots, more friendly POS than hostile POS means SOV.
I for one can't wait for the first EVE video about this invasion. I got ahold of the transcript early (thanks anonymous goon):
[0:03:16] <tell a story about how BoB are evil and goons the heroic outnumbered rebels> [0:12:52] <show pictures of POS-shooting in PUIG> [0:14:41] <show some epic dogfights, choreographed and recorded on Sisi> [0:17:23] <show pictures of POS-shooting in Y-OMTZ> [0:19:10] <show a long-range bs gang being double-DD'd, recorded on Sisi> [0:25:55] <show pictures of POS-shooting in NOL> [0:29:02] <show a big goon bee as the victor, name allies in small font somewhere too> |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Delve has been a little anti-climactic.
Everyone crying about unfair, some guy they trusted shut their alliance down is missing a big point.
Kengoku KEPT their sov claims. They had towers and mods all over Delve, they had titans and caps ready to go.
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
At least you are right about Delve being anti-climatic. Nothing "epic" or fun is happening, POS grinding is on the daily menu and thats hardly worth the 200 threads goons open every day about it. |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
All you have to do to get sov back to 3 is go out and defend the towers. They had hundreds of pos, multiple titans, so many elite pvp'ers, and how many towers did they try to defend? None. When Bob came to Scalding Pass, goons were outnumbered and outgunned. Our allies came to help us, and we came out to fight. We didn't win all the fights, but we won enough to keep our space. Any alliance that turtles up with the mentality, "if we don't give them any fights, they will go away eventually" doesn't deserve any space.
You crack me up mate. 
Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK! |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: Crimson Justice
You crack me up mate.  Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK!
How many elite pvp'ers does it take to beat a swarm of t1 frigates? Why not try something during BoB primetime? Why not plan something with your allies to at least show some courage, some bravery, some dedication to protecting your own assets? Better to live on your feet than die on your knees. Kengoku is going out with a sad, pathetic whimper.
First of all - I think we can drop the "goons, t1 frigs, lol - meme". Its outdated and to reminisce syndicate, but nothing else. The problem with BoB's primetime is that its also the primetime of RAWR, RZR and TCF. As I have said - the NAPtrain can field 23/7 a very large fleet.
I actually agree with you, that they should fight - not necessarily your "die on your feet" idea, but find a creative way to circumvent the hopeless lagfest slaughter and strike in a different fashion at least. |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vashan Tar I keep looking at your alliance, UNL. Last time I checked we were brosefs, whats with the sand in the vagina or are you just another one of Jake Nobles most excellent spies?
I had no problem with Goons before the Haargoth accident and the propaganda war Goons started to convince every single one that beating BoB was an accomplishment, regardless if their alliance got disbanded and their defenses shut down or not.
Just because we're blue to each other, I don't have to like whatever you guys do. |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque You're an idiot, if Kenny had the chance they would have nuked goonswarm off the map using a high level spy.
And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Yes - judging by both goon performance on these forums as well as your associations (Haargoth), I have no doubt to mistrust anything you say or claim.
Let alone that goons: - made fun of the death of one of the GBC's members - constantly research players out-of-game and try to harass/embarass them with real-life information - have repeatedly said that their aim is to ruin EVE for everyone else - as proven yet again with that new "Goon FUN graphic"
Sorry, but you have zero credibility, so please return to your goon-talk, but don't try to bring fake arguments as if you try to have a serious discussion. Go back to spamming fofofofofo in local and enjoy YOUR game. |

Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alrar Manq NO HONOUR
Indeed, my little goon. :D
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Crimson Justice
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque
Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts.
But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861
Here you go.
Oh noes, foot -> mouth.  |
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